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在拆解前回顾一下硬件规格总是令人愉快,而且这次我们只要抄一下作业就行:改进版规格上几乎和4月版完全一致。
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1块7.3英寸超感官灵动折叠屏(分辨率2152 X 1536,362 PPI),以及一块4.6英寸Surper AMOLED副屏(分辨率1680 X 720,399PPI)
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64位高通骁龙 855八核心处理器
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12GB RAM佐以512GB 内部存储空间
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总计6个相机,从前往后分别是:10 MP自拍相机、8 MP RGB深度相机、16 MP超广角相机、12 MP广角相机、12 MP长焦相机
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结合Bixby功能的电容式指纹传感器
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USB-C电源/数据接口,没有耳机孔
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本次更新:屏幕出厂贴纸上罗列了详尽的注意事项,包括不要用力戳屏幕、不要将手机暴露在尘土之中等等。
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看起来三星是非常希望我们能小心对待这台手机……但是好像并没有说不要将手机拆成零件?所以我想我们可以继续吧?
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“当设备折叠时,不要将任何物品,例如银行卡、硬币、钥匙等,放入屏幕之间。”所以千万不要这么干。
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如果你还没有见过Fold折叠前后,那我们来为你展示:
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折叠状态下,它比Galaxy S10+更窄、更长、更厚。
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在展开状态下,呃,它……很大。虽然没有iPad mini 5那么大,但它的边框更小,所以在考虑实际可用屏幕空间的情况下,它们实际上是有可比性的。
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相对于这台手机的前一个版本,三星填补了许多可能导致灾难的漏洞。
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大概最重要的一个能让破坏屏幕的碎屑进入手机的入口就是折叠部位的两端,在硬质塑料屏幕边框的端点留下了一个巨大的缝隙。
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我们很高兴能看到三星在这里加入了一个小小的保护罩封住了缝隙,这样可以避免
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当手机处于折叠状态时,屏幕则会处于保护状态,但在铰链两侧依然能看到巨大的缝隙,这吸引我们撬片去尝试。这些缝隙看起来不太会导致那些让屏幕立即损坏的故障,但肯定会聚集污渍。
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我们应该说过它很厚吧?折叠手机确实很酷,但如果想把它放进你的紧身牛仔裤口袋,可能就需要一点运气了。
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铰链部分占用了大部分空间,因为屏幕并不是完全折叠,所以看起来它更像一个活页夹,而非一本书。
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在展开状态下,这块主屏被用一圈略微突起的表圈保护着,这意味着使用时,你的指尖可能会感受到边缘的突起,这可能也能在折叠状态和屏朝下放置时保护下屏幕。
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传闻说那个恼人的屏幕保护贴现在已经延伸到屏幕边框下方。这个“防手贱”设计能不能让它在我们手下幸存呢?大概不行吧。
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这台手机就算只折叠过一次,其中间的折痕也会非常明显。
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在主板下方有一个记号。某友善的QA人员在散热铜板上写下了“TD”二字。拜托,这个含义只可能是“Tear Down”(拆解)吧。是你吗三星?这就是注定要我们来拆的意思吧。
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你可能会花费2000美元买台超棒的单反或者无反,所以这台设备内塞入了6颗相机,从价格上看还挺合适的?
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我们将这些不会眨眼的眼睛们排了个队。
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后置12 MP长焦以及12 MP广角相机
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后置16 MP超广角相机
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折叠屏内的10 MP自拍相机和8 MP RGB深感相机
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非折叠屏的10 MP自拍相机
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让我们来看看左侧主板
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这些硅胶密封组件是否在柔性排线连接器的周围?看起来是的。我们首先在iPhone 6s上看到了这类防护措施,但这在三星的设备上并不常见,当机身并不防水的时候,这便是对小板的保护措施。
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同时,我们在板上找到了些芯片:
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MPB02 6084Z9 1934Pc2,可能是电源管理集成电路
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52D0S05 608CC21 G1929MG9
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CS3SL40 A0PI1922
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CS40L25 B1BF1928
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ASL01 G1910
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双倍的手机,双倍的快乐!让我们来看看右侧主板有什么东西吧:
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三星K3UHAHA 12 GB RAM其下方则为高通骁龙 855
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三星(Samsung)KLUFG8RHDA-B2D1 512 GB eUFS闪存
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Qorvo 78062 可能是射频融合(RF Fusion)模块
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高通 SDR8150
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Murata KM9705076
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Maxim MAX77705C 电源管理集成电路
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IDT P93205
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有趣的内部组件对比过后,我们将注意力转向了这部手机的闪耀点:可折叠的OLED屏幕。
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屏幕挡板依然仅用些许粘合剂固定,拆解并不会耗费多少功夫。
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通常情况下,我们明显是更喜欢轻量使用粘合剂的设计,但在这部设备上,我们不禁担心随着岁月更替,这些挡板会很轻易地脱落,进而使得屏幕暴露而受损。
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这些边框超薄,它们仅仅覆盖了2MM宽的屏幕。
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边框拿开后,可以看到新的T字型塑料保护片盖住了屏幕折叠处的边缘。一个弹性垫片在T字型尾部下方挡住了整个缝隙。
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这相对于第一代Fold那个巨大的缝隙来说,肯定是确实性的改进。但是目前的措施真的能够帮助屏幕阻挡所有口袋里的衣料细尘和奇多碎屑吗?如果可以,那“蚂蚁”呢?不不,我是说蚂蚁。
A bellows with thin metal ribs running in the length.
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没有边框之后,屏幕就是我们的首要目标了!我们上次并没有再使用加热,但是今天,看起来三星不给我们这个机会了——他们希望屏幕能留在原地,所以他们涂上了一堆胶。
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屏幕依然仅在边缘部分使用粘合剂固定,或许是为了能在折叠或打开时有所移动的余量。
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这一次,更换屏幕变得相对困难并不是我们最大的担心。哪怕你不摔手机都有可能弄坏屏幕,这意味着更换屏幕基本上无法避免,细思恐极。
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三星慷慨的提供了149美元的屏幕更换价格,但是仅此一次。所以请轻柔的点击屏幕。
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屏幕通过机身左侧一条超宽的屏幕排线连接到主板。
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那么他们会在第二次发布时更新屏幕驱动吗?当然!那么我们在拆解之前亲自测试过了吗?你问题太多了……
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好吧好吧,这个就是我们听说过很多次的增强型屏幕了。我们确实找到了新增的金属层,像锁子甲一样夹在背板和屏幕中间。
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在新的装甲层后面,是我们之前见过的薄金属支撑板,它们的边缘黏结在手机中框上,这可以让中间没有粘合的部分获得更大的折叠半径。
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一旦从中框上取下,屏幕就变得完全平整,上面的折痕几乎看不到了。
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“先进的聚合物保护层”附着在柔性屏表面。对,就是在早期拿到媒体机的评测人士间引起了不小的骚动的那层保护膜,依然不可移除。但至少三星将这层物质延伸到了整个屏幕的边缘,解除了让人把它撕下去的诱惑。
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我们依然不相信这个保护层能完全藏好。这层物质和Galaxy S10上预先贴好的保护膜非常相似。他们真的认为不会再有人将其撕下了吗?
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我们猜测移除这个保护膜依然会损坏屏幕,而且既然三星已经好声好气的要求过了,我们就先让它留在原地吧……暂时。
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Hello..
Would like to ask how if we had problem with one of those flex..?
It possible to change and replace..?
Tks.
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尽管有了改进,这只美丽蝴蝶的生命依然悲剧性的短暂。
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主要来看,三星似乎默默的对我们在原初的拆解中提到过的可靠性建议进行了快速改进。不客气,三星。
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我们在屏幕转点边缘的缝隙上找到了遮盖,铰链内部也封上了胶带,这两者让碎屑不再轻易的进入屏幕背后。
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至于进一步的增强,在屏幕背后增加了一层金属支撑。
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最后,同样重要的是屏幕保护膜变大了,并且将边缘藏到了塑料边框下面。
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尽管如此,这部手机依然非常脆弱。我们已经看到它在现实世界运作得如何,但现在我们不禁有点好奇:为什么这个改版不是我们最初见到的Fold?各路评测人员(以及我们)花了不到一个星期就指出了这台手机的各种弱点。那么为什么三星要发布这么一款他们明知会及其易损的设备?
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虽然它相对于其他某些手机而言更容易拆解,但是其依旧令人担忧的脆弱程度对于维修而言可不是个良好的信号。
Hi,
I have accidentally broke (i think) flex cable that route through hinge of my galaxy fold 2 and causing no sound (on certain angles) and leave sim card undetected (also on certain angle) but when fully closed all those above are return to it's full function. Is there somehow i can fix the flex cable without replace a complete set (costly) of inner side screen and frames?
Thanks for advise
Meest voorkomende klacht van de telefoon op internet is dat de fold niet meer 100% opengaat.
Maar bv 80 of 85%, alle reparatie bedrijven inclusief Samsung bieden dan alleen de optie voor het compleet vervangen van het scherm.
Kan het ook gerepareerd worden door het scherm te verwijderen zoals hierboven en de hinge te reinigen?
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Now how did you get your hands on that little thing? Aren’t the folds supposed to be in the hands of tightly controlled tech reviewers? Don’t you risk being sued by samsung?
Sued by Samsung? Since when did disassembly become illegal? Have I missed something?
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Disassembly is legal. Trafficking in stolen goods is not.
The moment the phone goes on sale, they have teams around the world that fly, drive and swim to go get them. These devices were announced and released … to the public, but they were pulled.
They’re not a flagship devices, hense there isn’t the hype and fan fare around them like a S10 and such.
What would you recommend Samsung do in order to protect against ingress of debris at the hinge (including the small gap between the screen protector and the display when partially open)? Would some kind of silicon or mesh be sufficient? Just trying to theorize what could be done to resolve the issue.
I think the same…maybe using both, silicon and a mesh (like those on some speakers of other phones) could help with outer holes, but the problem with the screen remains - when opening the Fold, any particle there will almost certainly break the screen. So, maybe a foam or other soft material between the screen layer and its plates could absorb the small particles. These, and extending the top layer that people are peeling under the bezel, I believe, could have avoided some of these problems. Best regards.
I vote for over-engineered screw auger that ejects dirt back out the hinge when it’s rotated…
Not make a folding phone….
This isn’t going to work yet or The Chinese Government, Sorry, I mean Huawei would have theirs out now/ relatively soon.
I have a feeling they too are having issues with production.
this is actually what ended up killing my fold 2. they never resolved it
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The good news is that none of the devices supplied to reviewers has caught on fire. Since this is Samsung we are talking about, that’s definitely progress.
That's a terrible thing to say about a Mighty Ruler.
When taking photos of up close objects, be sure to set your camera to a higher aperture like 8f+
When you use low aperture that creates a blur in the background, you want that in a portrait of a person for example, but with a bit of technology you want to see the whole photo clearly.
Barring the flexible display this phone is basically two phones connected together with a neat little hinge.
Sorry! Sorry, I don’t mean to make light of all the time and effort it took the engineers&researchers to create that display but considering this problem I think more then a few technical reports and suggestions were ignored by the people upstairs.
I am kind of curious as to why Samsung went with this design though.
I mean don’t get me wrong, the display looks COOL, but if the idea was merely to give consumers bigger displays that could still fit in their pockets then why go with this instead of a phone design with an add-on port? Imagine a smartphone with an add-on port to the side consisting of an optical transceiver for data and induction coil for power transfer that are normally dormant until that phone and another are locked into a folding case that enables the ports to link those phone together, the primary doing all the work while the secondary acts as just a additional display and battery.
there have been multiple attachments for phones like that already, the bottom line is no one carries additional accessories with them for phones. There’s a reason modules for phones havent worked out
I liked the teardown, and then I saw the Repairability Score 2. Looked again over the teardown, mostly nicely done, no shattered panels, no fancy screws. So why only 2 ? I read again the score, it’s Repairability Score not Reliability Score. It might have a rough start but on my books it’s a solid 8 if not higher. You should fix it.
It’s not a 8/10 but maybe a 5 or 6? I think the rating got influenced by the *expected* lifetime of some important parts. Does iFixit uses some chart how to award a rating? Or is this more kind of a subjective rating?
LastDawn -
Did you try putting the Fold back together? Does it still work?
They removed the protective film from the screen which damaged it.
Carbon nanotubes with Aramid fibers can solve this in a a dual helix hexagonal pattern with parts machined from aircraft grade 2 titanium. Copper can be used in between as spacers for reducing friction and for a smooth hinge movement. A positive it is also conductive if required to pass energy from point a to b. With modern machining, they don't need glue and could benefit by keeping the front fascia thin and flats but build up the sides and back with extra protection. A mix of some soft grip nice touch material for spastic feeling, and perhaps a shock absorbing plastic underneath. Then they can keep the screen and aluminum as is, just needs to beef up the hinge and protect the movement with the correct materials. Its not rocket science, Samsung. Call me, I'll help you just cause I feel like it.
and thanks to your suggestions the phone might just end up costing 4000 dollars instead of 2000, cost-effectiveness of materials is a thing buddy, thats why engineers dont run businesses
This is a perfect example of synthetic versus real world testing. Of course repeatedly folding the display in a controlled environment worked fine - this flexible OLED tech is the reason this phone took almost a decade to engineer. But this display doesn't exist in a vacuum; the real world is full of lint, sand, and dust. That's why phones have shifted towards the "sealed slab" design - the reduction of moving parts and points of ingress have worked wonders for their durability.
The Galaxy Fold feels like an over-engineered solution to a problem that Samsung created themselves. By placing the flexible panel on the inside of the Fold, they not only had to add extra cameras and another display to make it useful when closed, but also created massive points of ingress. And for what gain? The outer display looks incredibly outdated, and the need for all these extra components is likely why the Fold is so outlandishly expensive.
You know the foldy parts of a surface pro keyboard? Why not make the phone like that? Everything stamp-sealed,reinforced, but flexible?
Sure it makes it harder to repair, but we are already at a 2…so go for the gusto and make a smooth seamless case to screen seal that flexes but allows nothing in? Screen definitely needs more work though!
Like on the “original” review, you are continuing to misunderstand the meaning of word “repairability” with reliability. For sure the reliability seems low but it was quite easy to open and access the internals, if you consider other offenders like MS Surface line. Try to use a dictionary next time.
The best repair is one you never have to make in the first place. A device that needs constant repair does not deserve a high “repairability” score.
What does mechanical wear have to do with the reparability score? You can easily repair it or not. How many times you need to repar it has nothing to do with the reparability. Same goes for the screens "pricy repair" (Can you name a price? $100/ $600?) Again, how does this affect the repairability score?
Yeah.. No thanks
Can i ask what is the hole on top of the right side of the phone when the phone is opened and screen facing you. its like a sim tray hole, i made a mistake by pushing the sim pin due to my bad eyes and realize its not the sim tray after noticing there is no tray coming out. I am worried i might have damaged something. Testing of the phone so far seems ok, but on using the samsung test code only one mic is working, ironically its the mic on top thats working and not the bottom hole next to the usb as when i speak into the mic on top the voice is louder on playback, where the bottom mic hole next to the usb c talking close to it does not change the volume of playback. please let me know on your tear down observation are there anything directly underneath this hole that i could have damaged?
Please let me know and many many thanks!
Charles C.
Hi Charles!
The hole you are referring to is a microphone hole, but don’t worry—the microphone isn’t damaged. (Reference image) The red arrow points to the inlet hole and channel, and the red box marks the actual microphone on the motherboard. Sound enters into the channel, turns at an L-bend, and passes through a waterproof membrane in order to reach the microphone. Inserting the SIM tool would push against the end of the L-bend. The waterproof membrane and microphone are out of reach. For more details, check this blog post.
Comment reparer le circuit de reseau fold
Cisse Mory - 回复
Wat een klote telefoon. Na paar weken al binnenscherm defect. En hij vouwt niet verder los dan 90 graden. Zeer onhandig. Garantie is slecht. Heb telefoon opgestuurd. Totaal zonder schade aan telefoon en ik krijg fotos terug van een krasje in het frane waardoor ze niet gratis willen repareren. Heel slecht. Raaf de telefoon zeker NIET aan. Ik heb er reuze spijt van.
Le mauvais indice de réparabilité, indique juste les éléments que les ingénieurs Samsung ont ajoutés pour la consolidation, la protection, notamment de l'écran principal et de la charnière de l'appareil. Sa durabilité.
Nota bene, tout ne peut pas être réparé individuellement, il ne viendrai à l'idée de personne (enfin j'espère) d'intervenir sur la montre ou le tableau XIX° du grand-père. Il faut savoir aussi parfois laisser la main à un spécialiste.