It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble but still isn’t terrible for new DIYers. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service but not difficult; not advisable for most unless the warranty was expired bad. Anything like the 3rd generation system is designed so it's borderline impossible to remove the "ink tanks" to access the printhead; you'll usually destroy these, so it's not something even I would try on a mildly viable one unless I gave up on lower risk methods. You're throwing it away if you mess these up.
Honestly if the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model, or buy another brand (preferably laser, if you don't need photos, if you want it color lasers are still expen$ive but far less awful - I own a C3326 after my C3426 had HV issues with $300 in non-SWP toner I can carry over, so I know all too well and did when I decided to buy a color laser). If you just wanted it for the CIS, it's always better in the longer term to get a "standard" disposable Epson, never update the firmware on the current "black cart" series (reason being they love to use fake "security updates" on the modern "black cart" series to block clone ink, and make downgrading Apple painful. Do the math!); used grey carts are all so old the WIC issue is getting to them despite it stopping at a nag, don't touch those. The fix for those is when it clogs, you can remove the CIS and use cleaner to fix the issue.[br]
***''As they break the "downside" is you pretty much have to replace it: The way to avoid issues is to alter the FW for a permanent fix, and block FW updates -- just void the warranty with the firmware mods when you can! It's dead once you use a 3rd party CIS anyway, since Epson will happily void it when they find out anyway! Ideally, buy 2 which can be FW modified. The warranty is there for Epson loyalists will pay $100 to get ink for a $50-70 printer, or pros who think it matters if you preserve it on a $150-250 wide format printer you pay off in studio time. The cost of the printer+CIS often ends up cheaper, or even anyway.''***[br]
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***''Even on a hobbyist level if I bought a wide format Epson, I'd put a CIS on it the moment I needed to replace one ink tank; the cost of a XP-1500 and most CIS units is as much as a ET-8550. I can probably get the XP on sale anyway, due to the ink margins... Not the 8550.''***
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***''Even on a hobbyist level if I bought a wide format Epson, I'd put a CIS on it the moment I needed to replace one ink tank; the cost of a XP-1500 ($399) and most CIS units is as much as a ET-8550 ($799). I can probably get the XP on sale anyway, due to the ink margins... Not the 8550.''***
The upside is the disposable printer+3rd party CIS is serviceable, but you just cannot update the firmware for ANY REASON unless you used all of your other options since the black cart Epson's (post grey cart) are regularly updated for the sole purpose of blocking 3rd party ink. Legally, the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s lawyers, so they're all too happy to "incidentally" block it, or if you get one where it was spoofed just wait for a lawsuit to come out with a subsequent "security" update.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble but still isn’t terrible for new DIYers. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service but not difficult; not advisable for most unless the warranty was expired bad. Anything like the 3rd generation system is designed so it's borderline impossible to remove the "ink tanks" to access the printhead; you'll usually destroy these, so it's not something even I would try on a mildly viable one unless I gave up on lower risk methods. You're throwing it away if you mess these up.
Honestly if the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model, or buy another brand (preferably laser, if you don't need photos, if you want it color lasers are still expen$ive but far less awful - I own a C3326 after my C3426 had HV issues with $300 in non-SWP toner I can carry over, so I know all too well and did when I decided to buy a color laser). If you just wanted it for the CIS, it's always better in the longer term to get a "standard" disposable Epson, never update the firmware on the current "black cart" series (reason being they love to use fake "security updates" on the modern "black cart" series to block clone ink, and make downgrading Apple painful. Do the math!); used grey carts are all so old the WIC issue is getting to them despite it stopping at a nag, don't touch those. The fix for those is when it clogs, you can remove the CIS and use cleaner to fix the issue.[br]
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***''As they break the "downside" is you pretty much have to replace it: The way to avoid issues is to alter the FW for a permanent fix, and block FW updates -- just void the warranty with the firmware mods when you can! It's dead once you use a 3rd party CIS anyway, since Epson will happily void it when they find out anyway! Ideally, buy 2 which can be FW modified. The warranty is there for Epson loyalists will pay $100 to get ink for a $50-70 printer, or pros who think it matters if you preserve it on a $150-250 wide format printer you pay off in studio time. The cost of the printer+CIS often ends up cheaper, or even anyway.''***
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***''As they break the "downside" is you pretty much have to replace it: The way to avoid issues is to alter the FW for a permanent fix, and block FW updates -- just void the warranty with the firmware mods when you can! It's dead once you use a 3rd party CIS anyway, since Epson will happily void it when they find out anyway! Ideally, buy 2 which can be FW modified. The warranty is there for Epson loyalists will pay $100 to get ink for a $50-70 printer, or pros who think it matters if you preserve it on a $150-250 wide format printer you pay off in studio time. The cost of the printer+CIS often ends up cheaper, or even anyway.''***[br]
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***''Even on a hobbyist level if I bought a wide format Epson, I'd put a CIS on it the moment I needed to replace one ink tank; the cost of a XP-1500 and most CIS units is as much as a ET-8550. I can probably get the XP on sale anyway, due to the ink margins... Not the 8550.''***
The upside is the disposable printer+3rd party CIS is serviceable, but you just cannot update the firmware for ANY REASON unless you used all of your other options since the black cart Epson's (post grey cart) are regularly updated for the sole purpose of blocking 3rd party ink. Legally, the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s lawyers, so they're all too happy to "incidentally" block it, or if you get one where it was spoofed just wait for a lawsuit to come out with a subsequent "security" update.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble but still isn’t terrible for new DIYers. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service but not difficult; not advisable for most unless the warranty was expired bad. Anything like the 3rd generation system is designed so it's borderline impossible to remove the "ink tanks" to access the printhead; you'll usually destroy these, so it's not something even I would try on a mildly viable one unless I gave up on lower risk methods. You're throwing it away if you mess these up.
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Honestly if the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model, or buy another brand (preferably laser, if you don't need photos - color if you insist). If you just wanted it for the CIS, get a "standard" disposable Epson, never update the firmware (they love to use fake "security updates" on the modern "black cart" series, grey cart doesn't have as much BS in firmware, but it's NAGGY). When it clogs, use cleaner and keep using it until it dies. At that point, rinse and repeat - new "disposable" Epson (again, NEVER UPDATE THE FIRMWARE), new CIS. Consider the warranty voided, as Epson is QUICK to do so.
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Honestly if the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model, or buy another brand (preferably laser, if you don't need photos, if you want it color lasers are still expen$ive but far less awful - I own a C3326 after my C3426 had HV issues with $300 in non-SWP toner I can carry over, so I know all too well and did when I decided to buy a color laser). If you just wanted it for the CIS, it's always better in the longer term to get a "standard" disposable Epson, never update the firmware on the current "black cart" series (reason being they love to use fake "security updates" on the modern "black cart" series to block clone ink, and make downgrading Apple painful. Do the math!); used grey carts are all so old the WIC issue is getting to them despite it stopping at a nag, don't touch those. The fix for those is when it clogs, you can remove the CIS and use cleaner to fix the issue.[br]
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***''As they break the "downside" is you pretty much have to replace it: The way to avoid issues is to alter the FW for a permanent fix, and block FW updates -- just void the warranty with the firmware mods when you can! It's dead once you use a 3rd party CIS anyway, since Epson will happily void it when they find out anyway! Ideally, buy 2 which can be FW modified. The warranty is there for Epson loyalists will pay $100 to get ink for a $50-70 printer, or pros who think it matters if you preserve it on a $150-250 wide format printer you pay off in studio time. The cost of the printer+CIS often ends up cheaper, or even anyway.''***
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***''It's disgustingly wasteful, but inkjets in general are already built to be used, hopefully some people buy ink and the people who know better get rid of them when they run out of ink and buy another one on sale. Double edged sword - we're trying to cut the amount of this waste, but printers are throwaway items, even some cheaper lasers! I replaced a bad C3426 with HV/formatter issues for a C3326 since I had $300 in spare toner (non-SWP) for like $150 and it had some starter toner left in it.''***[br]
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The upside is the disposable printer+3rd party CIS is serviceable, but you just cannot update the firmware for ANY REASON unless you used all of your other options since the black cart Epson's (post grey cart) are regularly updated for the sole purpose of blocking 3rd party ink. Legally, the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s lawyers, so they're all too happy to "incidentally" block it, or if you get one where it was spoofed just wait for a lawsuit to come out with a subsequent "security" update.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it UNLESS you can work around multiple traps comfortably.
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It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble but still isn’t terrible for new DIYers. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service but not difficult; not advisable for most unless the warranty was expired bad. Anything like the 3rd generation system is designed so it's borderline impossible to remove the "ink tanks" to access the printhead; you'll usually destroy these, so it's not something even I would try on a mildly viable one unless I gave up on lower risk methods. You're throwing it away if you mess these up.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model or buy one from a brand that isn’t as bad - your call here.
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Honestly if the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model, or buy another brand (preferably laser, if you don't need photos - color if you insist). If you just wanted it for the CIS, get a "standard" disposable Epson, never update the firmware (they love to use fake "security updates" on the modern "black cart" series, grey cart doesn't have as much BS in firmware, but it's NAGGY). When it clogs, use cleaner and keep using it until it dies. At that point, rinse and repeat - new "disposable" Epson (again, NEVER UPDATE THE FIRMWARE), new CIS. Consider the warranty voided, as Epson is QUICK to do so.
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If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC (auto reset) chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.[br]
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***''It's disgustingly wasteful, but inkjets in general are already built to be used, hopefully some people buy ink and the people who know better get rid of them when they run out of ink and buy another one on sale. Double edged sword - we're trying to cut the amount of this waste, but printers are throwaway items, even some cheaper lasers! I replaced a bad C3426 with HV/formatter issues for a C3326 since I had $300 in spare toner (non-SWP) for like $150 and it had some starter toner left in it.''***[br]
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The 3rd party systems are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons (post grey cart) have an active target painted on 3rd party carts in firmware - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
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The upside is the disposable printer+3rd party CIS is serviceable, but you just cannot update the firmware for ANY REASON unless you used all of your other options since the black cart Epson's (post grey cart) are regularly updated for the sole purpose of blocking 3rd party ink. Legally, the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s lawyers, so they're all too happy to "incidentally" block it, or if you get one where it was spoofed just wait for a lawsuit to come out with a subsequent "security" update.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it.
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It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it UNLESS you can work around multiple traps comfortably.
If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model or buy one from a brand that isn’t as bad - your call here.
If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC (auto reset) chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.[br]
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The 3rd party systems are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons (post grey cart) have an active target painted on 3rd party carts in firmware - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model or buy one from a brand that isn’t as bad.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model or buy one from a brand that isn’t as bad - your call here.
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If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC (auto reset) chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.
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Those are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons have an active target on them painted by Epson towards 3rd party carts - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
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If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC (auto reset) chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.[br]
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The 3rd party systems are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons (post grey cart) have an active target painted on 3rd party carts in firmware - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it.
If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model or buy one from a brand that isn’t as bad.
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If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.
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If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC (auto reset) chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.
Those are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons have an active target on them painted by Epson towards 3rd party carts - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it. Those are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons have an active target on them painted by Epson towards 3rd party carts - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model or buy one from a brand that isn’t as bad.
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If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.
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Those are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons have an active target on them painted by Epson towards 3rd party carts - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it. Those are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons have an active target on them painted by Epson towards 3rd party carts - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy culture.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it. Those are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons have an active target on them painted by Epson towards 3rd party carts - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy corporate culture - and yes, they WILL probably flag it out of spite.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.
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If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it. Those are serviceable, but you can never update the firmware since the black cart Epsons have an active target on them painted by Epson towards 3rd party carts - and the CIS chips CANNOT register as genuine unless they want to deal with Epson’s litigation happy culture.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disasssemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens.
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It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disassemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens and you basically have to choose between risking it all or scrapping it.
If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to deal with while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disasssemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens.
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It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to try and clear it while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disasssemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens.
If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.
It sounds like the printer was DOA or there’s air in the lines somewhere and now it’s in the printhead :(. If this was a standard Epson without the EcoTank hardware, it wouldn’t be as hard to deal with while still being careful about it if the printer is returnable. The 1st generation ones use a setup that’s difficult to disasssemble, but isn’t as bad. Once you got to the 2nd generation, they started to cost cut and in turn, made it harder to service. 3rd generation and beyond is borderline impossible to service when something like this happens.
If the printer is still under the return policy, return it now and try again with a similar model. If you want and CIS systems are available, I would just get a normal Epson that’s cheap with CIS systems available, install a 3rd party CIS with ARC chips and forget about the warranty since it’s an excuse for Epson to void it.