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Model A1312 / Mid 2011 / 2.7 & 3.1 GHz Core i5 or 3.4 GHz Core i7 Processor, ID iMac12,2

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Voltage regulators on logic board? (+ diagnostic points definition)

Hi everybody.

My iMac is not starting up. I have a technician guide for a previous model (mid 2010), and following the instructions it could have been a faulty PSU. But it wasn't, unless the new (used) one I purchased has the same exact problem.

Of the 4 diagnostic LEDs on the logic board, only the first lights up. When I push the start button (which was tested and behaves correctly), the fans spins for about half a second, and that is it.

1 - Logic board diagnostic points.

So I tried with the test points on the logic board. Voltage regulator in iMac 27" - screen blackout. meyer gives the definitions for the test points and the expected values. Since mayer doesn't give the points order, I assumed it is the same like in the 2010 iMac manual (I believe it is also a standard for numbering the pins of the integrated circuits): the ground pin, which has a square mark on the board, is number one, and it is at the right end of the upper row of 7 points; beside number 1 there is number two, and below that, on the other row of 7 points, there is number 8, so that number 14 is at the lower left corner, diagonally opposite to number 1.

My test with the multimeter gives a strange result (check with meyer's info). All pins give 0V but:

  • pin 4: -0.00V (but LED 1 is on!)
  • pin 6: 0.06 V
  • pin 11: 11.90 V (but LED 2 is off!)
  • pin 13: 3.93 V (the display is not connected)
  • pin 14: 0.08 V

Does anybody knows if the test points have changed purpose between 2010 and 2011 iMacs? Or can anybody find a meaning in the funny values I found on my iMac?

2 - Voltage regulators on logic board?

In the description of the second test LED, the repair manual for the 2010 27" iMac says: "Indicates that the main logic board has detected proper power from the power supply when the computer is turned on and that logic board voltage regulators are functioning properly"

So: where are the voltage regulators the manual refers to: on the PSU board or on the logic board?

If they are on the PSU... as I wrote before, I already replaced it, so it looks bad. There is a tiny hope that the power harness between PSU and logic board is defective (tomorrow I will take down the logic board and test it), otherwise I will have to change the logic board (and I will have to find a cheap one, otherwise it will not happen...).

If they are on the logic board: can anybody identify them? I am not a solder magician, but maybe it is possible to replace them for little money. And if it is not possible... it looks again bad...

And the behaviour of the fans when attempting to start the machine, does it suggest anything to anybody?

Thanks to everybody.

Yassan

Update 1

The power harness is fine... Logic boards on eBay from 100 €, not so bad...

Update 2

July 19th

Also the new used logic board doesn't solve the problem...

I will give also the logic board back (for the graphics card is too late) and sell all the working parts.

Thanks to arbaman for the contribution.

Bye.

Yassan

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yassan let us know what exact iMac you have and what the 820-XXXX number of your logic board is.

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Beside what is specified in the device frame at the top of this page, it is a core i5 with originally 4 GB RAM + 4 GB added (got 2nd hand from an specialised Apple shop). I added an SSD to the 1 TB HDD (thanks to the great iFixit guide for this :-) A couple of weeks ago the graphics card died (for the second time; the first time it happened in time for the free repair program). I replaced it with a used one bought on eBay (I took a few photos and wrote down the last part of this process, when it departs from the iFixit guide for the double drive installation; it could became my first contribution to iFixit). The iMac worked properly for a few hours but the day after it refused to start up, and there it started the story that brought to post the question. I just looked for the number on the logic board but I could not find it; I assume it is on the other side. Tomorrow I will anyway unmount it for testing the power harness, so I will look again and post it here, but now I go to bed (I am in Germany :-) .

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The logic board number is 820-2828-A

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@yassan did fix it?

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@Alberto Casado

No, I sold the Mac piece by piece on eBay.

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I'm not into iMac repairs, my experience is just based on Macbook laptops, thus take this with due care and just as a possible hint for your logic board troubleshooting. What's called quarter fan spin is often related to a current sensing issue. Despite power must be handled by different components since iMac don't have a charging circuit, I assume you'd have similar current sensing circuitry based on resistors and SMC or the likes in case of a iMac too. There must be also something like an all system power good signal that has to be there to allow the machine boot, but again, on an iMac I don't know exactly how it works. Undoubtfully component level troubleshooting is quite complicated and time consuming and getting into it might not be the best option..being a 6/7 years old machine a used logic board shouldn't be that expensive if you plan to install it yourself.

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